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  1. Hamish Keith
    Posted 23 February 2010 at 11:26 | Permalink

    Don’t dis­agree with much here. Cor­rec­tion though I did not design the cur­rent NZLP logo but I did design the logo and other mater­ial in the pion­eer­ing 1969 cam­paign — the country’s first mod­ern polit­ical cam­paign — first split screen movie advert­ising — which Bob Har­vey con­ceived and ran. From 1962 to 1975 I worked as a graphic designer on mater­ial as diverse as screen cred­its and Auckland’s first major mall, Pak­ur­anga Town Centre. I designed the graphic themes for events like the First For­mula One Grand Prix and Ships Sci­ence and the Sea, and a poster kiosk pro­ject for the ori­ginal Auck­land Fest­ival. I did the design and typo­graphy for a num­ber of books Brown & Keith ‘Intro­duc­tion to New Zea­l­and Paint­ing” among them and I designed and ran the graphic pro­grams for most of the Auck­land Gal­lery exhib­i­tions from 1962 to 1970. You can find an archive of my graphic work at Te Papa. I should not have to present these cre­den­tials but in the light of your gen­er­a­tion of design­ers’ belief that nobody had been any­where before them I am obliged to. Open source com­pet­i­tions are not ideal but them as you point of closed tenders com­pet­i­tion do not pro­duce any magic cer­tain­ties either. The Royal Mint com­pet­i­tion for new coin­age was open and pro­duced , in my view, superb designs. Sign off on that by the way was HRH and Gor­don Brown neither well known design pro­fes­sion­als. Neither I nor my fel­low judges can change the pro­cess but you and your col­leagues can change the res­ult. I for one hope you will. I should say that the res­ult might be the begin­ning of the pro­cess you say is neces­sary — cer­tainly when this logo is handed over to the new city post elec­tion I for one will be recom­mend­ing that hap­pens. In the mean­time could your pro­fes­sion just squeeze the insult out of the debate and provide a little more cre­at­ive con­tri­bu­tion. Your A by the way will most likely be one of hun­dreds but there is no reason why a superbly real­ized one of those could not be where the new brand begins.

  2. Michael Barrett
    Posted 23 February 2010 at 13:28 | Permalink

    Thanks for the reply. I have to come clean — the ‘A’, an anarch­ist sym­bol of some kind, was flogged off Wiki­pe­dia. The user has released it into the pub­lic domain, so in that respect it’s up for grabs if anyone’s lack­ing an entry (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Anarchy-symbol.svg). Other than that, it’s nice to hear your graphic design his­tory – as a judge of a pub­lic com­pet­i­tion though, these cre­den­tials should be re-presented. Many people have short memor­ies, not just the yoof…

  3. Hamish Keith
    Posted 23 February 2010 at 14:17 | Permalink

    Anarchy might be just the right theme

  4. Posted 23 February 2010 at 17:31 | Permalink

    Inter­est­ing stuff from Ham­ish. Good to hear. There was NZ design before the web? –kid­ding.
    Com­par­ison with Royal Mint: I’m guess­ing Brown and Liz would be very well advised on design (and much else). Would the council?

    And I’m guess­ing that people, young design­ers and oth­ers, would feel a much stronger emo­tional pull to be involved in design­ing a coin for UK/2012, pro bono, than one might feel toward a city coun­cil under­go­ing a polit­ical over­haul. Design­ers might well think, if I’m work­ing for free, it should be for fam­ily, or char­ity, some­thing like that.

    There’s that nice romantic egal­it­arian notion that, in this kind of pub­lic forum, any kid can slap up in crayon the gen­esis of a great idea, and it becomes the next Olympic Rings. But, I don’t think people believe in the value of some­thing unless there’s some­body author­it­at­ively stamp­ing that on the mark (or, more likely, cha­ris­mat­ic­ally ham­mer­ing it home in a focus group meet­ing). In other words, you can’t win.

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